About 177 AD the Greek philosopher Celsus, in his book ‘The True Word’, expressed what appears to have been the consensus Jewish opinion about Jesus, that his father was a Roman soldier called Pantera. ‘Pantera’ means Panther and was a fairly common name among Roman soldiers. The rumor is repeated in the Talmud and in medieval Jewish writings where Jesus is referred to as “Yeshu ben Pantera”.
Pantera's gravestone is the one on the left
In 1859 a gravestone surfaced in Germany for a Roman soldier called Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, whose unit Cohors I Sagittariorum had served in Judea before Germany – romantic historians have hypothesized this to be Jesus’ father, especially as ‘Abdes’ (‘servant of God’) suggests a Jewish background.
- Tib(erius) Iul(ius) Abdes Pantera
- Sidonia ann(orum) LXII
- stipen(diorum) XXXX miles exs(ignifer?)
- coh(orte) I sagittariorum
- h(ic) s(itus) e(st)
- Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera
- from Sidon, aged 62 years
- served 40 years, former standard bearer (?)
- of the First Cohort of Archers
- lies here
The gravestone is now in the Römerhalle museum in Bad Kreuznach, Germany.
It appears this First Cohort of Archers moved from Palestine to Dalmatia in 6 AD, and to the Rhine in 9 AD. Pantera came from Sidon, on the coast of Phoenicia just west of Galilee, presumably enlisted locally. He served in the army for 40 years until some time in the reign of Tiberius. On discharge he would have been granted citizenship by the Emperor (and been granted freedom if he had formerly been a slave), and added the Emperor’s name to his own. Tiberius ruled from 14 AD to 37 AD. Pantera’s 40 years of service would therefore have started between 27 BC and 4 BC.
As Pantera would probably have been about 18 when he enlisted, it means he was likely born between 45 BC and 22 BC. He could have been as old as 38 or as young as 15 at the time of Jesus’ conception in the summer of 7 BC.
In 6 AD when Jesus was 12, Judas of Galilee led a popular uprising that captured Sepphoris, the capital of Galilee. The uprising was crushed by the Romans some four miles north of Nazareth. It is possible (and appealing to lovers of historical irony) that Pantera and Joseph fought on opposite sides. As Joseph is never heard of again he may well have been killed in the battle, or have been among the 2,000 Jewish rebels crucified afterwards.
So Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera is indeed a possibility as Jesus’ father. The only thing we know for certain is that Mary’s husband Joseph wasn’t the father, and that Mary was already pregnant when they married. It could have been rape, or Mary may have been a wild young teen who fell for a handsome man in a uniform, even if he was part of an occupying army. It happens.
The Gospel According to the Romans 
I always had some doubts about that virgin-birth theory. Interesting historical angles here.
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Some badly behaved teens will tell their families the most unlikely stories, in trying to lie their way out of trouble! Apparently her story was plausible in those days. (NOTE: Girls, you’re unlikely to get away with this explanation today.)
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Jesus was as strong as Pantera, as sexy as Mary and as merciful as Joseph.
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women were stoned if they were found not to be virgins (Deuteronomy 22:13-30). The only reason she wasn’t killed was because Joseph wasn’t an angry guy and just didn’t want to deal with it.
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3 years later to respond. For Romans sex between un married people was acceptable. Roman Women who got pregnant out of wedlock would dispose of their babies just outside the village for them to die or be eaten by wild animals. For a religious Jewish family it might have been unacceptable but Mary might have been from a less religious family.
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why does everyone think that Yesuah Ben Pantera was Jewish? You obviously have a Greek background involved. Demigod a few reincarnations away is more likely.
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That is an interesting and amusing observation. Thank you!
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‘virgin’ was a mistranslation of ‘young girl’…
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Surely Jesus was from a young girl, if Mary was raped.
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Couldn’t she have been a young girl yet not raped?
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untrue, it meant virgin. Just like the German word, “jungfrau” technically is a conjunction of “jung” (young) and “frau” (girl/woman), but that is not what the word means. Otherwise it was a ridiculous prophecy for a “young woman” to conceive….
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The Nazarenes the early name for the followers of Jesus only used one Gospel. It was an earlier copy of what we call Matthew and did not include the story of the virgin birth . It began with jesus’ baptism by John. The Nazarenes did not believe in the virgin birth but that Jesus was born the same way all humans are born and became the son of God through “adoption” when he was recognized by God “this is my son in whom I am well pleased”. They were labeled as heretics centuries later by the Roman Catholic church.
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Earlier yet written in Greek and Latin. And copied portions of Matthew which it develops. Also Mark and John begin with Jesus’ baptism so it proves nothing. They were rightfully recognized as heretics for making up their own version of history.
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Quote from Wikipedia, “Genealogy of Jesus”:
“Controversy has surrounded the name Panther, mentioned above, because of a charge that Jesus’ father was a soldier named Pantera. Celsus mentions this in his writing, The True Word, where he is quoted by Origen in Book 1: 32. “But let us now return to where the Jew is introduced, speaking of the mother of Jesus, and saying that “when she was pregnant she was turned out of doors by the carpenter to whom she had been betrothed, as having been guilty of adultery, and that she bore a child to a certain soldier named Panthera.”[57][58] Epiphanius, in refutation of Celsus, writes that Joseph and Cleopas were sons of “Jacob, surnamed Panther.”[59] Two Talmudic-era texts referring to Jesus as the son of Pantera (Pandera) are Tosefta Hullin 2:22f: “Jacob … came to heal him in the name of Jesus son of Pantera” and Qohelet Rabbah 1:8(3): “Jacob … came to heal him in the name of Jesus son of Pandera” and some editions of the Jerusalem Talmud also specifically name Jesus as the son of Pandera:[60] Jerusalem Abodah Zarah 2:2/7: “someone … whispered to him in the name of Jesus son of Pandera”; Jerusalem Shabboth 14:4/8: “someone … whispered to him in the name of Jesus son of Pandera”; Jerusalem Abodah Zarah 2:2/12: “Jacob … came to heal him. He said to him: we will speak to you in the name of Jesus son of Pandera”; Jerusalem Shabboth 14:4/13: “Jacob … came in the name of Jesus Pandera to heal him”. Because some editions of the Jerusalem Talmud do not contain the name Jesus in these passages the association is disputed.”
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or Mary could have been impregnated by the Holy Spirit so that Jesus is the perfect sin offerring not born into sin, and able to save the world from sin and final death.
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Or it might have been a mistranslation…
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Probably not
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YOU’RE RIGHT… never doubt that!!!
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you been bamboozled the jews got you brainwashed. they are khazars and ashkenazi , they control entertainment banks newspaper everything.
NY Times Oct 29 , 1996 “Scholars Debate Roots of Yiddish, Migration of Jews”
Remember if you control literature, you control what a people think. And christians are the first to be controlled as “sheeple” with a “shepherd” and “being born again” to keep you a baby and without knowledge because knowledge is power (and why its banned as the forbidden fruit) keep you enslaved dumb and this system going strong.
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John 3:16 – I am the way, the truth and the light ……….whoever believes in me will have eternal life.
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I dunno. All those people in the Christian cemeteries look pretty dead to me.
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See Occam’s Razor.
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I am the way, the truth and the light ……….whoever loves me, kisses me, licks me, be into me and receive me, will have eternal life. Jesus is so sweet. Only lovers trust each other and do nasty things.
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If we are to believe that Jesus did exist during the 1st century then a Roman military man by the name of Pantera is the most probable answer for Jesus biological father. Just think about it, when Caesar Augustus appointed Herod king over Judea. Herod returned to Judea with a large Roman army and deposed Antigonus II Mattathias. After Herod’s death in 4 BCE, Sepphoris (where Mary was born) became the center of one of several Jewish rebellions against Roman rule. The Roman army moved in under the command of the Roman Governor Varus in Syria (this is where Abdes Pantera was born). So what do you think happens between the Roman troops and local women when they are stationed in Sepphoris? They had relationships (rather legitimate or in rape) that led to what is known as “war children”. Local women having children by a occupying foreign military would have been an embarrassment to a Jewish woman and can lead to being stoned to death. So under these kinds of circumstances what is a woman to do? She would have to marry a local man with the hopes that he would be willing to claim the child as his (Joseph) own. And just one side note: I agree with Julius Africanus and Tertullian that places Jesus birth around 2 BC. I don’t personally think that Jesus lived during the time when Herod was alive, while being fully aware of what the bible says about Herod’s “Massacre of the Innocents” which cannot be verified outside of the biblical source.
Melvin Terrell
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I agree with all your points, Melvin, and they are integral to the novel. They have a lot to say about the personality development of Jesus, and of his hostility to the Romans.
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We’re also talking about someone recording over a hundred years after Jesus’ supposed death a “Jewish consensus”. So we say we don’t believe these religious wackos but hey we can believe these religious wackos. The Christian representation of Jesus didn’t necessarily paint a kind picture of the jews. It even mentions the jews in Jesus’ lifetime accusing him of being a basted son born out of wedlock. So you’d expect the first and second century jews to have a consensus that Jesus was born of an occupying, murdering Roman soldier. This is no perfect evidence that the Jewish mythology of Jesus is anymore accurate than the Christian mythology. More acceptable from a secular perspective, no more verifably accurate.
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Except that there is no such thing as a virgin birth… but occupation troops getting young girls pregnant happens all the time.
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To the contrary: http://mentalfloss.com/article/20413/are-there-really-virgin-births
In theory, it is possible.
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Except they can only be female. See rabbits
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Check out parthenogenesis (duckduckgo.com/?q=parthenogenesis)
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In Talmud, Jesus, Mary, Pentera and Joseph were all perverts. Pantera was Mary’s lover and Joseph was her husband. Very likely Mary and Pentera staged fake rapes, public sex, to fool Jews and make fun from their religious leadership. Mary was fucking her religious tradition and social norm.
Mary got love from so many hunks by her adultery and whoredom among carpenters and soldiers from public sex and group sex. It’s why Jesus was full of love. He was as strong as Pantera, as sexy as Mary and as loving as Joseph.
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Panther is the maternal grandfather of Jesus. This Panther was not a Roman soldier.
Jewish Source :
Jewish tradition relating Mary to Luke’s genealogy is recorded in the Doctrina Jacobi (written in 634), in which a Tiberian rabbi mocks the Christian veneration of Mary by recounting her genealogy according to the tradition of the Jews of Tiberias:[55]
Why do Christians extol Mary so highly, calling her nobler than the Cherubim, incomparably greater than the Seraphim, raised above the heavens, purer than the very rays of the sun? For she was a woman, of the race of David, born to Anne her mother and Joachim her father, who was son of Panther. Panther and Melchi were brothers, sons of Levi, of the stock of Nathan, whose father was David of the tribe of Judah.[56]
JOSEPH of Arimathea.
1) According to the Gospels, he donated his tomb for the body of Jesus after the Jesus’ Crucifixion.
2) According to the Talmud, he was the younger brother of Joachim the father of the Virgin Mary, that is, he was Mary’s uncle and Jesus’ great-uncle
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I think people for year has been trying to disprove God and His Son. All I know for sure is God moves in my life and I have seen the hand of god. And for those in the grave, their bodies lay there and their spirit is the one that lives forever with God and His Son Jesus Christ. I will continue to pray for the lost souls and the non believers. This bull is just Satan trying to put doubt in the world and by the looks of it man is believing him. As in the words of MY LORD ” God forgive them they know not what they do.”
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Amy, of course that is a standard Christian view of things. However, when you read the words and actions of Jesus within the context of the 200 years of Jewish fundamentalist uprisings against the Roman Occupation, it seems very likely that Jesus was simply another of the dozen would-be Messiahs who tried to restore God’s Kingdom in Jerusalem, and who were executed for it.
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And, on this point we agree. It would be helpful if Christians understood the Jewish concept of the Messiah and their understanding of God.
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According to Genesis KJV all males and females were called the sons and daughters of God. (Divine Creator). Jesus was a mystic, which means he had a deeper insight into laws, and mistaken perceptions many people carried with them from more ancient times of the Old Testament. He bucked tradition and power, and didn’t die on the cross “for” sins but “because of them”. Ignorance, fear, politics, religions, (my god’s better than your , god) power, greedy etc. That is why we have reincarnation which is why we evolve and grow in knowledge and wisdom.
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Jesus ben Pandera is interesting because it’s known to both Celsus and the Talmudic Jews. The problem with ben Pandera is that the rabbis have him as a contemporary of Alexander Jannaeus, who died circa 88 BCE. I think the answer is most likely that the Jews never heard of Jesus of Nazareth, but found some points of intersection with Jeshu ben Pandera and assumed it to be the same person. Centuries later, the Jews wrote an anti-Gospel based on elements of Talmudic lore involving ben Pandera, ben Stada, Balaam and others. This was an evolving story, but the earliest elements simply are too dissimilar to those of the Gospel Jesus to think we’re talking about the same person. If anyone is interested, the best book out there from a living author is Frank Zindler’s “The Jesus the Jews Never Knew,” which you can easily obtain at amazon (as I did). Full disclosure: I once believed that Jesus was a political revolutionary. I now have concluded that he was a mythical deity living in the spirit world, and only later generations of Christians imagined he had lived on earth after the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE by the Romans, and as an explanation thereof.
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any book written by men concerning Jesus Christ the only begotten of God the creator of everything thing seen and unseen, known and unknown, revealed and unrevealed, is a mere imagination of the hearts and minds of men in their wise concerning the affairs of God and these are the things that defiler men because they came out from men in their wise. whatsoever God shall reveal to men which is not for men he sealed them in them, and whatsoever God shall reveal to men which is for men, he cause them to speak and write of them from them for them, which shall influence them because they wanted them.
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I agree with your comment
“any book written by men concerning Jesus Christ the only begotten of God the creator of everything thing seen and unseen, known and unknown, revealed and unrevealed, is a mere imagination of the hearts and minds of men”
which of course includes the Bible. It is mere imagination.
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You go to work and can’t see your family around you. You can imagine that they are still alive and the imagination is true.
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Seems like the Talmud has a lot of problems. It seems like a bunch of men gave their entire lives and martyrdom [minus John] to propagate a lie. This theory doesn’t make any sense.
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There is also another alternative to the non Christian point of view. Mary was tempted or solicited by coin which was her price as any woman has a price so to speak.
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Having dwelled on the whole matter and bringing science into the picture the whole story has contradictions which leads one to conclude that it is possibly not true leaving me as a agnostic ( one which doubts the authenticity but is not entirely convinced)
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[…] The Gospel According to the Romans Now my own interest here, having just considered the role of the Panther in Mesopotamian symbolism and the Association of the Panther with the Constellation Perseus, because relating to this are associations of immaculate conception through Divine impregnation from the Perseid meteor stream, in Greek mythology giving birth to Perseus. Thus from a curious amalgam of Hellenistic and Mesopotamian lore Divine conception was of the Panther/Perseus, in the form of shooting stars, but also according to Mesopotmian tradition the winged Panther disgorged from it's mouth death and destruction in the sense of the Perseid meteors and comet under the auspices of Ninurta, who in some sources was the causer of the Great Flood representing Enlil his Father, this is the context of the Mesopotamian seals Ninurta as bringer of destruction, a good candidate for having caused the younger Dryas impacts, and there are accounts of Ninurta's Flood storm weapon causing great destruction. The mace snarled at the mountains, the club began to devour all the enemy. He fitted the evil wind and the sirocco on a pole), he placed the quiver on its hook An enormous hurricane, irresistible, went before the hero, stirred up the dust, caused the dust to settle, levelled high and low, filled the holes. It caused a rain of coals and flaming fires; the fire consumed men. It overturned tall trees by their trunks, reducing the forests to heaps, Earth put her hands on her heart and cried harrowingly; the Tigris was muddied, disturbed, cloudy, stirred up. The birds there tried to lift their heads to fly away, but their wings trailed on the ground. The storm flooded out the fish there in the subterranean waters, their mouths snapped at the air. It reduced the animals of the open country to firewood, roasting them like locusts. It was a deluge rising and disastrously ruining the mountains. Ninurta and the Cosmic Super Weapon […]
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There is no evidence that Jesus was born of a Roman named Panthera. that was a common name for Roman soldiers, so doesn’t even pinpoint a specific individual. That rumor wasn’t even being claimed until after Christianity started, in an attempt to discredit it.
If I knew as little as y’all do about the data showing the gospels historically accurate, I might have the same disposition you do.
There’s plenty of well known ancient historians who wrote about Jesus, one of which being Luke who also wrote a gospel. There’s about 42 documents saying something about Jesus, a lot of which are either hostile or indifferent to Jesus and Christianity. Some historians also mentioned a few of the miracles recorded in the gospels or just mention Jesus as being famous for miracles that they dismiss as illusionist tricks, or otherwise sorcery. An example is a record from Thallus in the 50’s A.D. mentioning the darkness that occurred during Jesus crucifixion and attempting to explain it as a solar eclipse. Africanus, who quoted this record about 2 centuries later, mentioned that an eclipse wouldn’t be possible because it happened during the Jewish Passover, when the moon is full and diametrically opposite from the sun. both of these historians records only survive as quotes in other historical writings, like in the records of Eusebius, from what was still left of their respective work during the time. Tacitus references in 115 A.D. in his Annals that Christians were killed for saying Jesus was resurrected. He recorded “Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular”. Suetonius recorded “After the great fire at Rome . . . . Punishments were also inflicted on the Christians, a sect professing a new and mischievous religious belief”. The only way that many people would believe that Jesus was resurrected was if they actually saw him. Even his first disciples doubted him until they saw him. The same culture that presented Jesus to be executed with the accusation of apostasy and sorcery is not going to suddenly change their minds about him and invent stories in agreement with his claims that they originally hated him for. And none of them could have hallucinated him because shared hallucinations don’t happen and in general can’t happen anyway when you aren’t expecting to see the person or have no care to. Simply knowing the culture of his time is enough to deduce that the converts were reporting a real encounter. And it’s recorded that one of the disciples touched Jesus after he appeared to them and Paul records having met about 500 witnesses. These new testament accounts are consistent with Josephus and the Roman historical records talking about the teaching of Jesus resurrection. Hardly any scholar, regardless of background, doubts Jesus was a real historical figure, it’s mostly the miracles that are controversial, but with no evidence against them, just skepticism that miracles can even happen.
No one who ever wrote about Jesus was ever questioned by anyone about if he actually existed. People who knew anything about Jesus would be around to say how accurate these claims were that were being recorded. There were plenty of people who hated his teachings who would have loved to refute that he was real, if he was made up. The problem is he was seen by many people in person. There are over 5000 copies of the new testament in it’s original language, all of which are mostly consistent with each other and modern translations. The only differences are the story of Jesus and the prostitute not being in the oldest copies and textual variants.
We know the new testament was completed before the second century because Clement of Rome quotes it in the late first century. The gospels would be some of the earliest of the new testament compilation. http://www.garyhabermas.com/books/historicaljesus/historicaljesus.htm#ch9 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2012/12/why-the-lost-gospels-did-not-make-the-canonical-cut/
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This is a typical apologists response. For starters, those who compiled the Bible didn’t have a clue who authored Luke so they titled it to him out of convenience.
Josephus wasn’t even alive during the Rabbis life, so he’s hardly a reliable source.
Tell me, where did the name Christ originate? And how does it pertain to this Rabbi fellow? (Hint; check out the Council of Constantinople)
Having been raised by an apologist preacher, it never ceases to confound me why many Christians are more interested in defending lies, rather than putting their efforts towards searching for truth.
It all boils down to ‘faith’, a concept designed by corrupt men (& backed up by the fictional ‘Doubting Thomas’ fairy-tale) to ensure obedience from superstitious, gullible & uneducated peasants, to Mother Church.
As Pope Leo X himself chortled; “How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us.”
How astounding that it still works in these more enlightened times.
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Using Gary Habermas and Patheos as sources to prove your long post is absurd. The former is a Christian apologist, and the latter is, well, not a good source. Your post is nothing more than a long, and tiring, example of Christian apologetics without any historical basis.
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[…] 1859, excavations on a railroad in Bingerbrck, Germany, unearthed the tombstone of a Roman soldier called Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera. Pantera was a standard […]
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I don’t believe in magic, like the immaculate conception, even when God does it. If Jesus really existed, then he must have had a father and mother. There are several interesting things about Jesus which are irrefutable.
First of all, Mary was unwed when Jesus was conceived. This makes Jesus a bastard. It’s interesting to note that 2 billion people worship this bastard but curse all other bastards as products of “fornication”!
Secondly, The story of Mary and Panthera has almost disappeared from Wikipedia, probably due to the transferrel of Gold bullion from the basement of the Vatican!
Thirdly, Since Jesus died a bloody death, we should be able to get a sample of his blood, perhaps from the”shroud of Turin”. From this we can decode his DNA. Then we can clone Jesus! Maybe his “second coming” is waiting for his clone!
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The scholars and archeologists have said the fact that Panthera may have been Jesus Father does not change anything! Jesus was ordained by God, and is in fact the son of God!
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Let me weigh this with scales.
On the one side, Jews, Christians, Muslims and Mormons who all agree that the thoughts of the creator of a billion galaxies are to be found in a book written by humans (though they disagree about what that book says); on the other side, scientists who every day discover more fundamental facts about the universe that contradict all those books.
And you want me to choose the writers of religious books? Seriously?
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Amen to that! Pardon the pun! lol
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It’s funny that Mary was only decreed a Virgin in 1852 by Pope Constance.
It’s also convenient that if you have a place like Vatican City where you can change documents and then say they are the truth, and have billions of people believe it. The Church was born on a lie, lives on a lie and will one day pass away because of that lie. What people believe is irrelevent.. Heaven, hell and paradise are marketing tools. In fact They are the best that man has ever thought of. I wish that I had of thought of them. They work people, live of a con.
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The Pope, in 1852, was Pius XI. Pius promulgated the dogma of the Immaculate Conception which articulated a long-held Catholic belief that Our Lady {Virgin Mary} was conceived without original sin. Thus, Immaculate Conception refers not to the birth of Jesus but, instead, to Our Lady.
FYI, Constance is a female name; therefore, no pope would be named ‘Constance.’
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To correct an error, I transposed the Roman numerals for Pius; it was actually Pius IX, and the promulgation of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception occurred in 1854.
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[…] Jesus’ father Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera came from Sidon, on the coast of Phoenicia just west of Galilee to enlisted locally, Jewish slave,his freedom from slavery. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera was sometimes referred to as Jesus-son-of-Pantera and ‘Abdes means servant of God. Tiberius Pantera was scheduled served in the Army for 40 years during the reign of Emperor Tiberius who then would have granted his freedom from slavery. Upon discharge, Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would have been granted citizenship by Emperor Tiberius and thus been granted his freedom from slavery. Because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera had formerly been a slave, and Pantera added Tiberius, the king’s name to his own for further identification in his military unit. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera honored The Emperor Tiberius because he was to be freed by the The Emperor Tiberius, (emperor of the Jewish slaves of an Occupying Army of the day,) and was never given freedom or a Roman Citizenship which was never granted to Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera as a free Roman, because ‘Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera died, ambushed by a German hord, he never stepped in front of the The Emperor Tiberius to become a free citizen of Rome. The only method of being granted Roman Citizenship of the time. Emperor Tiberius ruled from 14 AD to 37 AD. Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera’s was to serve 40 years of service and would started after 4 BC. because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would probably have been about 16 or 18 when he enlisted, that means he was likely born after 22 BC. He could have been as old as 23 or as young as 15 at the time of Jesus’ conception in the summer of 4.0 BC. When Jesus was a boy, Jews of Galilee led a popular uprising that captured Sepphoris, the capital of Galilee. The uprising was crushed by the Romans some four miles north of Nazareth. It is possible and appealing to humans of historical irony, that Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera and Joseph fought on opposite sides. Then according to records, 2000 Jews were crucified as a result. In Antiquities 20-5 the sons of Judas the Galilean, who had led a revolt in 6 C.E. over the Roman taxation census, were crucified by the Roman Tiberius, as Joseph is never heard of again he may well have been killed in the battle, or have been among the 2,000 Jewish rebels crucified afterward. So Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera is indeed the one possible individual who is Jesus human father. The thing we know for certain is that Mary’s husband Joseph wasn’t the father and that Mary was already pregnant when they married, which was ordered by the angels in the bible. The woman still only pledged in marriage was in an advanced state of pregnancy. It could have been possibly rape, or Mary may have been a wild young hot teen who fell for a handsome soldier man in a uniform named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, and judging by the size of Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera’s headstone he was the best archer in the Roman army, even if he was part of an occupying army. It happens. Related to the facts is the best guess of Jesus’s family In Religion, the Bible with Unashamed commercialism.In Fiction, the bible Jesus’ s Healing vs. Greco-Roman Medicine In “History”, Jesus, Joseph, Judas of Galilee, Mary, Pantera, uprising. Post navigation Monotheism and polytheism is the best guess at Jesus’ family, called“Jesus, son of Pantera” https://robinhl.com/2011/11/06/jesus-son-of-pantera/ […]
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[…] Jesus’ father Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera came from Sidon, on the coast of Phoenicia just west of Galilee to enlisted locally as a Jewish slave to gain his freedom from slavery. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera was sometimes referred to as Jesus-son-of-Pantera and ‘Abdes means servant of God. Tiberius Pantera was scheduled served in the Army for 40 years during the reign of Emperor Tiberius who then would have granted his freedom from slavery. Upon discharge, Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would have been granted citizenship by Emperor Tiberius and thus been granted his freedom from slavery. Because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera had formerly been a slave, and Pantera added Tiberius, the king’s name to his own for further identification in his military unit. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera honored The Emperor Tiberius because he was to be freed by the The Emperor Tiberius, (emperor of the Jewish slaves of an Occupying Army of the day,) and was never given freedom or a Roman Citizenship which was never granted to Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera as a free Roman, because ‘Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera The Emperor Tiberius died bravely in battle, ambushed by a German hord, he never stepped in front of the The Emperor Tiberius to become a free citizen of Rome. The only method of being granted Roman Citizenship of the time. Emperor Tiberius ruled from 14 AD to 37 AD. Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera’s was to serve 40 years of service and would started after 4 BC. because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would probably have been about 16 or 18 when he enlisted, that means he was likely born after 22 BC. He could have been as old as 23 or as young as 15 at the time of Jesus’ conception in the summer of 4.0 BC. When Jesus was a boy, Jews of Galilee led a popular uprising that captured Sepphoris, the capital of Galilee. The uprising was crushed by the Romans some four miles north of Nazareth. It is possible and appealing to humans of historical irony, that Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera and Joseph fought on opposite sides. Then according to records, 2000 Jews were crucified as a result. In Antiquities 20-5 the sons of Judas the Galilean, who had led a revolt in 6 C.E. over the Roman taxation census, were crucified by the Roman Tiberius, as Joseph is never heard of again he may well have been killed in the battle, or have been among the 2,000 Jewish rebels crucified afterward. So Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera is indeed the one possible individual who is Jesus human father. The thing we know for certain is that Mary’s husband Joseph wasn’t the father and that Mary was already pregnant when they married, which was ordered by the angels in the bible. The woman still only pledged in marriage was in an advanced state of pregnancy. It could have been possibly rape, or Mary may have been a wild young hot teen who fell for a handsome soldier man in a uniform named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, and judging by the size of Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera’s headstone he was the best archer in the Roman army, even if he was part of an occupying army. It happens.Jesus’s father In 1859, excavations on a railroad in Bingerbrck, Germany, and now sits in the museum unearthed the tombstone of a Roman soldier, called Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera. Jesus’s father Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera,whose unit Cohors, Archers, at the time of Jesus Romantic Historians have discovered this to be Jesus’ father, especially as ‘Abdes’ means (‘servant of God’) Jesus’s father Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, was a slave, as all Jews were under the Roman rule of the day. Jesus is referred to as “Yeshu ben Pantera”. Early Jewish sources make Jesus the son of Panthera, a Roman soldier. “Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [a common Jewish euphemism for Jesus is the bastard son of an adulteress.” (Mishnah). Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera’s TROOP MOVEMENTS PROVED: It is as it appears this First Cohort of Archers moved from Palestine to Dalmatia in 6 AD, and to the Rhine in 9 AD. Josephus and Jewish Antiquities, But the Bible is that Rome was not taxing or conducting a census in Israel, before it becoming a province in 6 A.D. But Josephus records that the Jews were being taxed by the Romans with commands coming from Syria, as early as 44 BC. “Cassius rode into Syria in order to take command of the army stationed there, and on the Jews, he placed a tax of 700 silver talents. he took on the king’s first name Tiberius, a Roman king, but not having completed his 40-year term of service Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera will forever be a slave in the facts of the day and the laws. jesus not eligible for the Divine Adoption that followed his crucifixion hits makes it an unauthorized Adoption act NO PAYMENT OR REPARATION HAS EVER BEEN MADE TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE, THE SLAVE OWNERS OF THE TIME! ALL OPPRESSION IS A FORM OF SLAVERY, MEANING JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN A SLAVE, NO MATTER WHO HIS MOTHER OR FATHER WAS. […]
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[…] Jesus’ father Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera came from Sidon, on the coast of Phoenicia just west of Galilee to enlisted locally as a Jewish slave to gain his freedom from slavery. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera was sometimes referred to as Jesus-son-of-Pantera and ‘Abdes means servant of God. Tiberius Pantera was scheduled served in the Army for 40 years during the reign of Emperor Tiberius who then would have granted his freedom from slavery. Upon discharge, Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would have been granted citizenship by Emperor Tiberius and thus been granted his freedom from slavery. Because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera had formerly been a slave, and Pantera added Tiberius, the king’s name to his own for further identification in his military unit. Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera honored The Emperor Tiberius because he was to be freed by the The Emperor Tiberius, (emperor of the Jewish slaves of an Occupying Army of the day,) and was never given freedom or a Roman Citizenship which was never granted to Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera as a free Roman, because ‘Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera The Emperor Tiberius died bravely in battle, ambushed by a German hord, he never stepped in front of the The Emperor Tiberius to become a free citizen of Rome. The only method of being granted Roman Citizenship of the time. Emperor Tiberius ruled from 14 AD to 37 AD. Tiberius’ Iulius Abdes Pantera’s was to serve 40 years of service and would started after 4 BC. because Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera would probably have been about 16 or 18 when he enlisted, that means he was likely born after 22 BC. He could have been as old as 23 or as young as 15 at the time of Jesus’ conception in the summer of 4.0 BC. When Jesus was a boy, Jews of Galilee led a popular uprising that captured Sepphoris, the capital of Galilee. The uprising was crushed by the Romans some four miles north of Nazareth. It is possible and appealing to humans of historical irony, that Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera and Joseph fought on opposite sides. Then according to records, 2000 Jews were crucified as a result. In Antiquities 20-5 the sons of Judas the Galilean, who had led a revolt in 6 C.E. over the Roman taxation census, were crucified by the Roman Tiberius, as Joseph is never heard of again he may well have been killed in the battle, or have been among the 2,000 Jewish rebels crucified afterward. So Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera is indeed the one possible individual who is Jesus human father. The thing we know for certain is that Mary’s husband Joseph wasn’t the father and that Mary was already pregnant when they married, which was ordered by the angels in the bible. The woman still only pledged in marriage was in an advanced state of pregnancy. It could have been possibly rape, or Mary may have been a wild young hot teen who fell for a handsome soldier man in a uniform named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, and judging by the size of Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera’s headstone he was the best archer in the Roman army, even if he was part of an occupying army. It happens.Jesus’s father In 1859, excavations on a railroad in Bingerbrck, Germany, and now sits in the museum unearthed the tombstone of a Roman soldier, called Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera. Jesus’s father Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera,whose unit Cohors, Archers, at the time of Jesus Romantic Historians have discovered this to be Jesus’ father, especially as ‘Abdes’ means (‘servant of God’) Jesus’s father Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, was a slave, as all Jews were under the Roman rule of the day. Jesus is referred to as “Yeshu ben Pantera”. Early Jewish sources make Jesus the son of Panthera, a Roman soldier. “Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [a common Jewish euphemism for Jesus is the bastard son of an adulteress.” (Mishnah). Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera’s TROOP MOVEMENTS PROVED: It is as it appears this First Cohort of Archers moved from Palestine to Dalmatia in 6 AD, and to the Rhine in 9 AD. Josephus and Jewish Antiquities, But the Bible is that Rome was not taxing or conducting a census in Israel, before it becoming a province in 6 A.D. But Josephus records that the Jews were being taxed by the Romans with commands coming from Syria, as early as 44 BC. “Cassius rode into Syria in order to take command of the army stationed there, and on the Jews, he placed a tax of 700 silver talents. he took on the king’s first name Tiberius, a Roman king, but not having completed his 40-year term of service Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera will forever be a slave in the facts of the day and the laws. jesus not eligible for the Divine Adoption that followed his crucifixion hits makes it an unauthorized Adoption act NO PAYMENT OR REPARATION HAS EVER BEEN MADE TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE, THE SLAVE OWNERS OF THE TIME! ALL OPPRESSION IS A FORM OF SLAVERY, MEANING JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN A SLAVE, NO MATTER WHO HIS MOTHER OR FATHER WAS. […]
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[…] The Emperor Tiberius. The Emperor Tiberius of the Jewish slaves of an Occupying Army of the day. Jesus’ father Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera was never given freedom or a Roman Citizenship which was never granted to Tiberius Julius Abdes […]
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[…] Jesus’ father Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera […]
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[…] Editors’ note: To understand why I am reproducing excerpts from the book by Mitchell Heisman✡ see the previous entry. I won’t quote from Heisman’s previous chapter, where he accepts the claim of a 2nd-century Greek philosopher, Celsus, that Jesus’ father was a Roman soldier. (For a short blog article explaining such claim see for example: here.) […]
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How do you know for certain Joseph wasn’t the father? That seems as likely as any non-supernatural explanation (and vastly more likely than any supernatural explanation)
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Yeah a roman solider was a father yeshu bin panthera
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[…] [1]https://robinhl.com/2011/11/06/jesus-son-of-pantera/ Robin Helweg-Larson. […]
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Of course, the one thing this story appears to leave out is that Jesus was “born of a virgin,” and although females MAY become impregnated due to wily seed escaping during foreplay, that too is an assumption. “Born of a virgin” (or even “maiden” from the Old Testament prophecy) implies that her hymen was *intact* at Jesus’s birth.
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Occam’s razor says the the simplest solution is usually the correct one.
1. God impregnated a human woman (like Zeus making Hercules).
2. Mary was either raped or was seduced by a handsome soldier.
Which of the two possibilities is more likely? If your fiancé told you that she was a virgin impregnated by God, would you buy it?
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[…] Autor Robin Helweg-Larsen historische Website Berechnungen zufolge hätte Panthera, wenn er während der Herrschaft von Tiberius 40 Dienstjahre […]
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This is a false flag misinformation diversionary type of affairs that has roots in the Talmud, which has been redacted and is now also a false flag, misinformation, diversionary type of affair. Pantera was the Talmud’s nickname for the father of Jesus and would most likely not appear on his tombstone. What is not being pointed out at all is that this would make Jesus a mamzer, that is, forbidden to be a Jew and an outcast from Jewish society. What is also greatly ignored… hidden?… is that most Jews in the first century of the common era did not live in Europe or Judea but in what is now Iraq under the rule of Parthia. Parthian rule was at war with Rome all of it’s existence, starting some fifty years before the common era and lasting another two hundred years. Most Jews worked with Parthians in the war against Rome and Christianity was a terrorist group developed by Jews in infiltrate and subvert the Roman Empire. It worked. Five hundred years later, Europe was in the dark ages while Baghdad was considered the height of civilization and the center of all learning. Alas… Look at it now.
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While I don’t agree with everything, I am intrigued by your Parthian comments. My novel did not consider the question of Jews living in Parthia, and the likelihood that they and Parthia itself would be interested in supporting Zealots and other rebel movements in Judaea. Thank you.
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RH-L wrote (in brief):> “…Celsus, in his book ‘The True Word’, expressed what appears to have been the consensus Jewish opinion about Jesus….”
To the point, *anything* _anyone_ may think, say or do, happens to be one’s *OWN* business, per the 10ᵗʰ Commandment, as recorded in Exodus 20:17, and which Jesus *Himself* references in Luke 6:42.
To the point, Jesus Himself teaches *personal responsibility* as recorded in Matthew 24:4— “Take heed, lest anyone *you* lead astray” (emphasis mine) —
Using the Good Shepherd analogy: [Mind your own flock. Let *others* call *their* sheep to *their* cotes (sheep pens.)]
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Sorry, was intended to be under this identity, rather than “anonymous.”
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